ecclesiastes 7 discussion questions

2 It is better to go to the house of mourning [a funeral], than to go to the house of feasting: for that [death] is the end of all men; and the living will lay it to his heart. So, now, the Preacher is going to move on – because he believes that you got the point of valuing difficult things over pleasant things. The fool doesn’t consider death. Actually, this body is not ours - it is a gift from God so that our spirits can be housed in it to enjoy God's creation & living a God-centred life (though of course, most keep God out of their lives & minds). BY JAMES M. MACDONALD, D.D., PRINCETON, NEW JERSEY. Answer: Ecclesiastes 7:16 says, “Do not be overrighteous, / neither be overwise— / why destroy yourself?” Given the Bible’s standard of righteousness and the premium it sets on wisdom, it seems strange that Solomon would say not to be overly righteous or too wise. In Jesus name I pray. So, pay attention to both of these warnings. That’s what we saw in the previous verse – that emphasis on prolonging one’s life. What are the three (3) things Pastor Shawn said Solomon was teaching us how to live as we relate to our broken world? Enjoy this Ecclesiastes 7 Commentary! Week 1 - Ecclesiastes chapter 1 - There are powerful forces in this world, but even the greatest people are really very weak. I assume that many things were easier and more pleasant for most of us when we were children than they are now. After exploring the origins of Christmas, I found that it was a pagan holiday. Questions For Discussion 1. Rather, take it to heart. Ecclesiastes 7 - NIV: A good name is better than fine perfume, and the day of death better than the day of birth. Give Thanks for you all, so precious for the creator of this universe. and the day of death [is better] than the day of one’s birth. And then it seems like the next verse is a warning about the potential of a wise man becoming a fool…. Ecclesiastes 7:1-13 Discussion Questions Outline of Pastor Mike’s Sermon Introduction • The Hero’s Journey (Monomyth) o 1949, Joseph Campbell wrote a book entitled The Hero with a Thousand Faces detailing the template of hero narratives. But money won’t save your life. Day 2 Do you have peace today? And he’s going to be completely unprepared. 1 A good reputation is better than a fat bank account. And then in Ecclesiastes 7:8 the Preacher goes back to comparing difficult things with pleasant things…. Rejoice. Work diligently while you are here; you won't be able to do anymore after you die II. I don't think that there is a Scripture specifically on that. Week 1 - Ecclesiastes chapter 1 - There are powerful forces in this world, but even the greatest people are really very weak. He hasn’t found any righteous women. Please print this section if you would like to study the Book of Ecclesiastes with a group of people. Your death date tells more than your birth date. 7:1 A good name [reputation] is better than precious ointment [perfume]; Well, that’s not so bad. They’re ultimately much better than easy and pleasant things. Throughout the Scriptures there are unique places where God’s presence dwells so as to be made accessible to God’s people. THE VANITY OF ISOLATION (4:7-12) A. 4. Ecclesiastes: Life in Perspective – Living Life Backward Ryan Falls, Senior Pastor i. Framing it up (1:1-11, 12:8-14) a. How would you summarize it? That laughter and mirth enjoyed by a fool is vanity. So many relationships suffer through lack of these, even one. This is obviously not talking about the righteousness that’s imputed or credited to a person when he believes God’s promise – like Abraham did regarding God’s promise of a descendant or like New Testament Christians do regarding God’s promise of forgiveness and eternal life in Christ. Be ready to face this God that the Preacher keeps talking about. Many of us have been stirred by his prayer in 2 Chronicles 7:14. When you were a child, you were taken care of – or you should have been, at least. 18 It is good that thou shouldest take hold of this [one warning]; yea, also from this [other warning] withdraw not thine hand: for he that feareth God shall come forth of them all [go forth in both, obey both]. • 3 Reasons o What is worth pursuing? This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. 11 Wisdom is good with [like] an inheritance: and by it there is profit to them that see the sun. You need to be patient to accept this. I came across your site and Wow it couldn’t be a simpler, non-complex explanation. 15 ¶ All [the following two] things have I seen in the days of my vanity: there is a just man that perisheth in [despite] his righteousness, and there is a wicked man that prolongeth his life in [despite] his wickedness. My fire of youth begins to smolder; I somehow tend to reminisce And speak of good old days I miss. I mean, really, the only pleasantness that we can derive from it is if we’re believers and if death is simply our entrance into life. 7:1-12 and 6:12b is linked to 7:13-14 by the phrase "after him" [BDB 29]). All that is coming is vanity. DISCUSSION QUESTIONS. So What… a. Truly the light is sweet, And it is pleasant for the eyes to behold the sun; But if a man lives many years And rejoices in them all, Yet let him remember the days of darkness, For they will be many. (7-8) A final flirtation with the under the sun premise. You, the Bible, and the Holy Spirit are priority in interpretation. chapter 7, it baffled me so I had to research it. With no end to his labors, with no satisfaction with his riches b. If your heart is in the house of mourning – if you consider the end of your life and let that sober reality sink in and act on that reality – then you’re in good company. Day 2 Do you have peace today? 1 A good name is better than fine perfume, and the day of death better than the day of birth. 1 (pdf) > Ecclesiastes Ch. It’s hard to wait for the end of a matter. THE VANITY OF BEING ALONE (7-8) 1. And, so, I think that statement is easy to accept, but what do you think about the second part of Ecclesiastes 7:1?…. Ecclesiastes 7. That’s where the Preacher comes back with this convicting thought – you, too, have cursed others, haven’t you? I will forever praise HIS HOLY NAME!! May God continue to use you in this manner of uplifting others. What does it mean to be overrighteous and overwise (Ecclesiastes 7:16)? ... Bible Questions is a work of the Holly Street church of Christ in Denver, CO. It is not unreasonable that he would return to that imagery in a discussion of these two ways of thinking and acting. It would seem that in a perfect world, a man who does right would have a prolonged life and one who is evil would have a very short life. The UBS Translator's Handbook on Ecclesiastes (p. 214) asserts that the last two rhetorical questions of Eccl. a. HOW IMPORTANT IS THE WORD OF GOD IN YOUR LIFE??? But do we ever consider how we’ve spoken of others? The perspective it offers. The Book of Ecclesiastes is a weird fit. What offense we take at people speaking poorly of us. But whether he faces that reality now voluntarily or not – he will eventually meet his end. Thank you Chris for the kind words, and the encouragement. And I’m sure this kind of statement is very offensive to the broader culture in which we live. Birth brings a lifetime of problems that we must deal with. And in the Preacher’s mind, that’s a good thing. Yes, you might prolong your life even though you’re wicked and foolish. So, both wisdom and money can provide some protection in various ways. 6 For as the crackling of [quick-burning] thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity. And lastly in this section, we’re directed to the relative value of adversity, which is difficult, and prosperity, which is pleasant…. 12 For wisdom is a defence [protection], and [like] money is a defence: but the excellency of knowledge is, that wisdom giveth [preserves] life to them that have it. Commentary on Ecclesiastes 11-12 (Wisdom from the Preacher) February 26, 2016 Bill Pratt Leave a comment. 29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions [evil schemes, devices]. Which of the wisdom sayings stands out to you? Day 3 Do you remember the day or season of life when you encountered God for the first time? Esau is the most powerful oppressor of all the nation's of heathens, and he try to cover up his wickedness of the people by giving them the gift of money. Be patient. 2 You learn more at a funeral than at a feast— After all, that’s where we’ll end up. Who wants to read God’s word without really understanding it.Kathy. Ecclesiastes 7 The Message (MSG) Don’t Take Anything for Granted. 9 Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools. Your death date tells more than your birth date. These times are not random, but appointed by God. July 29 2018- Ecclesiastes 4:7-12- A Good Friend August 5 2018- Ecclesiastes 5:1-7- Worship is Relationship August 12 2018- Ecclesiastes 5:8-6:9- The Pursuit of Meaning Through Wealth August 19 2018- Ecclesiastes 9:1-12, 11:7-10- Everyone Dies August 26 2018- Ecclesiastes 12- Hope. With no end to his labors, with no satisfaction with his riches b. as money is a shelter, Be ready for death. What does it mean that we have eternity in our hearts (Ecclesiastes 3:11)? And as long as the Preacher is talking about patience and pride in one’s spirit, he continues in Ecclesiastes 7:9 talking about other potential problems within one’s spirit…. God has appointed a time for everything but man knows neither the time nor the outcome. No one. So, this is saying that either – 1) when a wise man oppresses someone else he will become a fool or 2) that the wise man can become a fool by witnessing oppression happening around him. ecclesiastes 11 7 niv, THE BOOK OF ECCLESIASTES EXPLAINED. Therefore, after searching for wisdom, I came to the conclusion that pagan and Christ = NO! In his early life he passionately sought the Lord. Don’t make great efforts to prolong your life through super-right living. Again, the beginning of something is naturally more exciting and hopeful. And this is the case in spite of God originally creating man upright. BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE AN SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE, TO RAISE BLESSED CHILDREN, TO HAVE GOOD FINANCES, TO LIVE AN ABUNDANT LIFE WE MUST HAVE THE WORD IN OUR HEART DAILY! Live joyfully with the wife God has given you 3. And this unfortunately is why you and I need wisdom in dealing with unjust people. Ecclesiastes 4:4-5:7 - Bible Study Questions - Avoiding . Not even you. Those thorns under a pot will burn and crackle quickly and will be no more. He had a lot of wisdom but made some foolish mistakes. 2 You learn more at a funeral than at a feast— After all, that’s where we’ll end up. And the Preacher’s not done with this theme of needing wisdom in dealing with the unjust…. What is it that the Preacher is instructing us to do in this passage? We don’t want to experience death. You’re in the real world now. 6 For as the crackling of thornes vnder a pot, so is the laughter of the foole: this also is vanitie. Ecclesiastes 9:1-14 “Thou hast made us for Thyself, and the heart of man is restless until it finds its rest in Thee.” –Confessions of St. Augustine, Book 1, Section 1. Wow this explains everything so much better, keep posting please, As I just started reading Eccles. Those actions might actually end your life prematurely. Ecclesiastes 7:2 "[It is] better to go to the house of mourning, than to go to the house of feasting: for that [is] the end of all men; and the living will lay [it] to his heart." You have truly blessed my evening. There are things that God shows us through sorrow that teach us so much more than laughter ever can. Actually, we have this reversed. Next, the Preacher compares another difficult thing with something pleasant…. Ecclesiastes 6 Song of Solomon 1 Ecclesiastes 7-12 The Message (MSG) Don’t Take Anything for Granted. Then the Preacher pictures the fool’s song-producing voice as something fleeting that will quickly vanish in light of eternity. 3 (pdf) > Ecclesiastes Ch. DISCUSSION QUESTIONS. Read Ecclesiastes chapter 7, then discuss these questions: (1) What benefits do people hope to gain when they attend parties? We might discover . Why did the author of Ecclesiastes advise people not to go? New opportunities. Verse 26 probably refers to a loose woman (harlot). And again since behind the Preacher is Solomon, it’s not hard to see why he might not have found any righteous women – since he got married to all those pagan wives. Application Questions: How does being aware of death help us live life? Where a man has so lived to earn a good reputation, the day of his death can be a time of honor. 4 The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning; but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth. Bless you all. Sadness of face is good for the heart. The Book of Ecclesiastes Discussion Questions Week 1 Day 1 Is your life full? 7. I know i have fallen prey to Satan's traps so many times that I can't count, but God has been there to clean up my mess. What does it mean that the dead know nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5)? 4. PLEASE make this journey that I am on a fruitful one that is long-lasting experience that benefits me, the ones I love and those that love me, so that I may someday be able once again to be a wise giving tree to your other children in the struggle. Ecclesiastes 7-12. THE VANITY OF BEING ALONE (7-8) 1. A fool is one that says no to God : A fool will proclaim all his anger : Anger works not the righteousness of God. You must not relinquish this to a commentator. “Two thousand years have elapsed since this was written; and since that time some millions of treatises have been added, on all kinds of subjects, to those which have gone before. So it may be that Solomon is here speaking of an actual woman—or of a plurality of particular women in his experience. So, don’t be evil and foolish either. Rejoice when things are pleasant and abundant. for thou dost not enquire wisely concerning this [asking this question is not wise]. They sober you up and get you searching for God in the midst of the difficulty. I took my time to ready it along side of my Bible. 6, 7). Why or why not? Ecclesiastes, Study Guide - From The Executable Outlines Series by Mark A. Copeland - Hundreds of free sermon outlines and Bible study materials available for online browsing and downloading. Meaningless! 16 Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise [do not depend upon your righteousness or wisdom FOR YOURSELF (reflexive) to obtain long life]: why shouldest thou destroy thyself [be disappointed when you die early]? 25 I applied mine heart to know, and to search, and to seek out wisdom, and the reason of things, and to know the wickedness of folly, even of foolishness and madness: Now, we’ve heard this kind of statement before. 10 Say not thou, What is the cause that the former days were better than these? It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house of feasting, for death is the destiny of everyone; the living should take this to heart. Ecclesiastes 7:23-29 (NLT) Discussion Questions 1. 3 Crying is better than laughing. I honestly used to struggle with moving ahead bcuz i was used to the former things which in my opinion were much more of what i can relate to as of now. Please print this section if you would like to study the Book of Ecclesiastes with a group of people. "THE BOOK OF ECCLESIASTES" Chapter Four OBJECTIVES IN STUDYING THIS CHAPTER 1) To reflect upon the Preacher's ... 7-12) A. Ecclesiastes Core Group Study “Meaningless! Fui edificado com o comentário que você postou. He saw more vanity under the sun 2. Solomon also refers to her in his, 24 That which is far off, and exceeding deep, who can find it out?". Ecclesiastes 7:1-13 Discussion Questions Outline of Pastor Mike’s Sermon Introduction • The Hero’s Journey (Monomyth) o 1949, Joseph Campbell wrote a book entitled The Hero with a Thousand Faces detailing the template of hero narratives. 27 Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account: 28 Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one [righteous] man among a thousand have I found [which isn’t saying much]; but a woman among all those have I not found [which is saying even less]. (7-10) - Eat and drink your food with joy - Adorn yourself with good apparel - Live joyfully with the wife of your youth - Work diligently 9) What reasons does he give for such counsel? And – above all – fear God. It is better to go to a house of mourning than to go to a house of feasting, for death is the destiny of everyone; the living should take this to heart. 7 • the Practical application of wisdom but made some foolish mistakes there... 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